Questions & Rumors: Another Shoe Brand to Enter Skateboarding?

All White Center Lo's ($55) & Hi's ($60) from PF Flyers.

All White Center Lo’s ($55) & Hi’s ($60) from PF Flyers.

Its been months since any worthy developments have been occurring in the world of skate shoes. Tech is back, rubber toe caps without the bulk are more prevalent since the early 2000’s and everyone’s finally realizing cupsole’s will extend your skating lifespan. Although this year at Agenda everything was in its usual format with the exception of seeing a potentially new skate shoe brand on the horizon.

PF Flyers obviously have no formal history in skateboarding, unless you count the citrus scooter movement from back in the day. Other than that, no skateboarder has ever had a reason to skate in some PF’s considering the uncanny similarities to the CTS from Converse (which at one point owned PF Flyers back in 1972). In all reality though, there are plenty of reasons to skate in PF’s. For one, they’re accessible at most discount family outlets. Secondly, their high foxing tape and rubber toe make their performance ideal in the world of skateboarding. Lastly, for those who are conscious of their arch and how much of a burden skating has on it, PF Flyers has built-in arch support throughout their all of their shoes. This is actually where their namesake came from: PF = Posture Foundation.

Disclaimer: After speaking with representatives at PF Flyers at Agenda LBC, we were told that PF Flyers have no intention of coming into skateboarding. They’re simply offering shoes that people have been skating for years.

Now, we can continue to take their word for it but if that were the case, this article wouldn’t exist altogether. More over, the fact that there are a number of ambassadors wearing their shoes who happen to be professional skateboarders indicates otherwise. The likes of Jason Adams, Josh Harmony and more are the few examples that have come to light.

The models that we did see at Agenda were certainly a mixed batch. The obvious majority of them were high top staples with a variety of low top models. While most of them carried over the same aesthetic, there was one model that caught our eye more than others. The Perkins model is a low top model with not only a rubber toe cap but a rubber sheath in total. Not only will you avoid damage on the toe but on the heel and sidewall areas as well. Because this isn’t a conventional design, its hard to tell how well the Perkins would actually skate. Given the damage of constantly flexing from preparing for tricks, we’d imagine some delaminating is possible, along with creases of all sorts.

The distinctive advantage that PF Flyers have over other skate brands at the moment is their honesty in pricing. Where the majority of skate shoes vary with material in mind, PF Flyers do it with more of a genuine touch. For example, this “Perkins” model, given their protective layer, should have one universal price because of the consistent durability but that’s not the case at all. The Perkins model will run you $65 for their canvas model, where the suede will cost you $80. This genuine generosity is the first of its kind from a skate-related shoe brand. We’re more than aware that some brands do it, but the difference in pricing isn’t as severe, making it that more transparent between the consumer and PF. If the built-in arch support wasn’t enough to win most over, the price difference between models, which happens to make total sense, could win over skaters.

One of many skateable models coming out from PF Flyers. -  The "Perkins" $65 (canvas) to $80 (suede)

One of many skateable models coming out from PF Flyers. – The “Perkins” $65 (canvas) to $80 (suede)

While these are some of the perks that come with buying PF’s, one more is as important and timed as all of the aforementioned ones. Their high foxing tape has separated PF’s shoes from the majority in the skate shoe world. The severity in high could prove to outlast and preserve the upper of most, if not all of their models. This is perhaps the simplest advantage that PF has, which any other brand could simply copy. Their built-in arch support and honest pricing still gives them great leverage versus any other skate brand on the market at the moment, and we can’t see it being easily replicated. Other variables come to mind, like how they actually skate. As it stands now, there’s no formal review on PF’s but we’ll be in touch with the brand in the coming months if they begin to expand into skateboarding.

Obviously, skateboarders have become more unionized as ever before regarding outsiders coming in, but if said outsider is offering unique and NBD technology to benefit your feet, do we permit them to come into our industry? Or do we continue to block each and every one of their attempts? If history is any indication, skateboarders won’t fight back as hard and it’s difficult to say whether that’s progressive to our culture or counterproductive.


  1. Cody

    March 26, 2015 6:04am

    I tried skating a PF Flyer-like shoe from Levi’s, and they were awful. Granted they weren’t Genuine PF Flyers, the design was the similar so I assume there is not a huge difference between the two. The thick bumper on the toebox holds up well to flip tricks, but limits the flexibility in the forefoot. The model I had was a vulc, and almost like a reverse Wafflecup, it had had the support of a vulc with the feel of a cupsole. All together I would not recommend.
    With that said, I am curious as to if the authentic PF Flyers are any better.

  2. Anderson

    March 26, 2015 4:30pm

    I saw an interview of a dude who was into skating cruiserboards and collecting PF Flyers Center Los fairly recently. He said the insoles of the PF Flyers have saved what remained of his arches. Considering it’s an old brand with products that have better features and quality compared to the Converse Chuck Taylors, I’m surprised very few people skate in them.

  3. allaner

    March 26, 2015 6:06pm

    One thing going for them is their pricing, really cheap shoes that are comparable to other brands that offers the same but much pricier.

  4. dr.g

    March 27, 2015 3:18am

    dumb shoes.

  5. Klay Christman

    March 27, 2015 4:38am

    I’ve actually skated a pair of PF’s and the lasted surprisingly well. The shoe’s sole lasted about two months of regular skating, and aside from them being canvas they are one of my favorites shoes to skate in.

  6. kyle

    March 27, 2015 2:10pm

    Sandlot Shoes – I Could Rock With These

    • kyle

      March 27, 2015 2:11pm

      It Looks Like They Are More Of A “LIFESTYLE BRAND” After Taking A Closer Look… STILL Not Sure What That Means Exactly

  7. Blake

    March 27, 2015 2:45pm

    If theres a shoe that could make a kid jump higher and run faster it was the PF Flyers, worked for Benny

  8. Stephen

    April 1, 2015 1:15am

    I’ll probably buy a pair or two when they inevitably hit the clearance racks

  9. John

    April 6, 2015 7:30pm

    Theres a website that sell them for less than $12
    I got 2 pairs and would lie if i said i wasnt a little xcited to see how they skate 🙂

  10. Ryno Longhorn

    April 11, 2015 11:25pm

    This isn’t exactly a “new” skate shoe brand.
    It’s owned by New Balance.

  11. Mk

    August 31, 2015 6:37am

    This is totaly unfounded, like saying chuck taylors are skate shoes. New balance already have a skate line so that will not be the intention for PF as a brand. If you do them by all means skate them.

  12. Devin carlson

    September 20, 2015 3:56am

    I’ve never skated chucks but would buy converse before these just my opinion ..hope they do good and Sponsor other riders

  13. Chris

    September 25, 2015 5:41pm

    Make some new models and I would buy them. Huf and converse BASICALLY have the same style type on certain shoes. Shit I need that extra arch support.

  14. Chris

    September 25, 2015 5:46pm

    The perkins are whats going to take the brand into the skate scene. The other looks too much like converse and maybe too bulky at that. those perkins tho, I already want to but a pair and skate them.


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